Re: assembler [was: Re: cheers for gogo]

["Foz" <nospam [at] mmu.ac.uk>]

> 
> I'm going to back out as it seems that the common belief now is assembly is 
> dead, as such, any arguments for it are outweighed by those against it and 
> apparent alternatives. As such, I don't think I have a viewpoint I can have 
> accepted.
I agree with you whole heartedly  :-)

> 
> I'll close with a brief(ish) summary: I disaggree that assembler is dead, and 
> I believe there is still a use for it (if there is not, why are students on 
> Electronic Engineering courses taught 8085/Z80 or 68000 assembler? Btw, I 
> also did C and C++ on the course as well) I disaggree that speeds increases 
I'm doing Software Engineering, Modula-2 as primary :-( but  with 
assembler along side :-)
> are minimal - 500 bytes of code is going to run and load a lot quicker than 
> 12k linked into a dynamic library. You should look at the application that is 
The Linux compile only brings in 12 - 15 k of library code, whereas 
the dos equivalent (DJGPP) brings in 100k - yup HelloWorld.exe in 
C is 100k, asm HelloWorld.com is 18 bytes. I like.

> being designed and use what is the most practical...to discount assembler 
> without properly considering it is, in my opinion, a bad thing. It's another 
> tool that is available for people to use.
One of my favorites. Its one of the only thing that makes me really 
sit down and think.
> 
> If noone has done so, and are interested in assembler and linux, then take a 
> look at the asmutils package (can be found on freshmeat) - it contains a 
> whole suite of utils that is still experimental but a definate proof of 
> concept, if nothing else.
I was already over there mate  :-)
> 
> If we can aggree to disaggree, then I'll be happy with that.
I'm even happier to agree with you  :-))

Cheers

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