Re: [Sheflug] B0rked email clients

[nospam [at] alexhudson.com]

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:31:20PM +0100, Will Newton wrote:
> It's not so much for me, but the group as a whole. My client doesn't
> handle long lines well (as this mail shows), and the problem is
> exascerbated by further replies making it all a bit of a mess.

Yes, I realise that (btw - does Ctrl-J not work in pine?). To be honest, this is one reason why I _prefer_ HTML mail - whitespace is more or less meaningless, and there doesn't seem to be a way around the age-old problem 'my email client doesn't like this', since there doesn't seem to be one solution which satisfies everyone, esp. text vs. gui users. Email just sucks ... to me, wrapping is equally bad, esp. when threads go on. I always thought pine had intelligent reformatting, though, if not C-J then something else... maybe I'm just dreaming though..

> Unfortunately most libs that evolution needs seem to be incompatible with
> what stable GNOME apps need, so I'm waiting for 1.4 before installing any
> of them.

Hmm, I don't have a problem, but then, I'm on a 2meg line and update a lot. The only thing I've broken so far has been Gnumeric, which has some Guile problem. Everything else is upgraded to pretty much whatever Ximian are throwing around these days, and everything seems to work. Although, I don't let it play with Moz, 'cos my install is invariably more up to date :)

> The Kompany have released some OK GPL software, it's up to them if they
> want to sell proprietary stuff too IMO. Not that I'm going to rush and buy
> any of it.

What scared me more was a) the way the whole magellan/aethera split came about (at least, from the outside looking in), and b) they way they intend to use their email client to leverage the server-side stuff. It kind of smacks of MS/Exchange to me, and while they're welcome to try, I hope they fail (in using one Free/free product to leverage others). I have no problem with their software per se, it looks pretty good, but the non-freeness of it - unless I'm mistaken, they don't even seem open-source? Quite how they've managed to legally link to KDE libs / Korelib etc., I don't know, but just morally it seems kind of sucky to me. With KDE especially being very object oriented and component driven, I really hope they don't integrate some of this stuff in - even if their projects are GPL, more and more of this functionality will integrated with closed products (Aethera, for example, will probably integrate with the closed Kompany server), and we're back to square one with non-Fr!
ee software. That really annoys me...

> The only thing they have that I'm interested in is the Python
> IDE, but they're not the only ones selling one - a Python IDE is one of
> those things somewhere low down on my todo list, maybe one day I'll get my
> finger out and write some code.

I believe ActiveState Komodo does Python too, but I couldn't be sure.. same reservations apply about that too.. personally, NEdit does most of what I need, so I generally stick with that :-)

> I'll have to give it a go now some stripped RPMS are available...

I personally use the pre-compiled .tar.gz's, and they've worked fine for me so far. I use Moz for all my browsing now, it's been the primary browser for me for months now. Maybe I'm biased ;)

Cheers,

Alex.
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