Re: [Sheflug] B0rked email clients (was: Login Screen just to please A.B. :)

[Richard Lowe <nospam [at] btinternet.com>]

* home@alexhudson.com (home [at] alexhudson.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:52:36PM +0100, Will Newton wrote:
> > > I think, though, that word-wrapping is more a receiver than sender problem - I'm using mutt, and I can't believe mutt defaults to anything other than strictly conformant :) I'm pretty sure Evolution does wrapping for you.
> > 
> > Pine wraps when viewing but not when editing/replying/quoting.
> > Please don't do it.
> 
> So what I am supposed to do ? Wrap at 74? 76? Maybe 70? If quotes go to 
> two deep, that means you can have '> > ' which breaks lines at 76.. and 
> of course, it assumes we're all using 80-column terminals to read our mail 
> (hint: I'm not). 
>

72.
Quoting getting to deep is also one of the most annoying things on
earth.
I witnessed a thread on another list a couple of days ago. where nearly
everyone who replied included all of the previous message. it gets
really really annoying on the 12th or 14th reply. :-)

> I probably will turn wrapping on my mail clients, just to shut the whiners up
> :) But note, I never complain about what gets sent to me, I accept 
> word-wrapped, non-word-wrapped, rtf, MIME encoded, HTML, etc. It really 
> doesn't matter, because my client handles them all perfectly well. I don't 
> mind attachments, I just don't care. Other people might do well to be less 
> anal (miaow :) and follow the maxim 'be liberal in what you accept, and 
> strict in what you send'... if I was to configure my client to send 'email' 
> in everybody's preferred format, I basically wouldn't be able to send anyone 
> anything.... 
>

Complaining about wrapping isnt something only a few people do.
although I have sympathy with people using GTK clients. where the text
widget wraps internally, but doesnt actually add \n to the text.
really really really annoying whichever side of it you're on :-)

The only email I really dislike is stuff I cant read.
ie, stuff thats only sent as HTML, and stuff where the only content is
an attached Word document.

> > Couldn't be bothered with the boat load of in development libraries it
> > requires just to start up.
> > GNOME really need to get their act together, they are light years behind
> > KDE at the moment, who have a faster release cycle and more sensible
> > packaging.
> 

The problem I have with gnome and libs, is apart from the gnomelibs
package, theres no sensible way to get them all at once.

I prefer the KDE way, of having kdelibs, and kdesupport have almost
everything you need, in the same place.

Of course, I dont really use either so I'm not in the best position to
comment.

> Hmm.... magellan, aethera et al. all require KDE libs.. and I don't see why 
> beta software shouldn't rely on development libs :-) I suppose you're just 
> giving your reason for not trying it though, rather than criticising.. as 
> for releasing, mmm, possibly. They're going to be at 1.4 very soon, but I'm 
> kind of sticking with it because KDE seems to get less and less Free all the 
> time. I don't really like the look of what the Kompany is about, for example,
> but I s'pose it's personal choice. 
>
> On a different tack - Mozilla 0.8.1 was downloaded and installed today. 
> Apart from the upgrade being a little ropey (I've never had this problem 
> with the previous versions!! It didn't seem to like my old ~/.mozilla), and 
> it not wanting to load my bookmarks (both problems now sorted though :), I 
> can say it's looking even better. It's now faster than Galeon was a few 
> builds ago, and it looks like they're still improving (0.8 was visibly 
> faster, 0.8.1 is, hopefully 0.9 will be as well). The GUI feels about the 
> same speed as GTK on my machine, and faster than xforms (well, lyx), and 
> Moz on the whole feels faster than IE5 running on W2K Pro via vmware (take 
> from that what you will). 

I think I'm still running an old nightly, from just after 0.8.
but faster is better, So I'll get 0.8.1 tonight :-).

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