Re: [Sheflug] Evolution, Ximian in general...

[Will Newton <nospam [at] misconception.org.uk>]

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 home [at] alexhudson.com wrote:

> I wonder if I can ask for a quick show of hands.. who uses Ximian Gnome
> here?

Downloading it now. Seen as I use KDE day to day I suppose having GNOME
snapshots installed shouldn't be a problem.

Hmm, GNOME is bigger than it was in my day. Easily as big as KDE.
And in more packages. I really wish GNOME would get it sorted.

> How did it find this version? Red Carpet. So, Ximian have three update
> channels (apt, Helix-update, Red Carpet) all of which have different
> software versions, one of which is obsoleted, the other two being
> distro-dependent. Grrrrr.

I think that is the idea TBH. It's like RedHat and apt. It's never going
to happen, because it puts that RedHat Network rubbish to shame and it
doesn't cost a tenner a month. Ximian are looking to make money of the
installer I would bet. Sticking annoying little ads in, "channels" that
let you purchase some fantastic product, automated update agents etc. It's
in their interests for it to be crap, and TBH I think they've done a great
job. The only upgrade over it's predecessor seems to be a more confusing
GUI.

> But, apart from that, Evolution 0.10 rocks. GnuPG works like a charm through
> it, and attachment-handling is much better, although it still insists on
> quoting mime attachments in replies, rather than re-attaching and offering
> removal ... :(

It seems the Evolution Snapshot channel on the updater contains a load of
stuff but not evolution. Never mind. :)

Another thing - the updater holds the lock on the RPM database. Lazy
programmer disease strikes again. And before you say "so what" the
installer doesn't let you check current versions, so you can't tell if
it's a major version upgrade or a package respin.

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