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Re: [Sheflug] Networking



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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:50:39   Barrie Bremner wrote:
>
>Sorry about this - I'm hopeless at explainly anything :-)
>
>>>>>> "Llewelyn" == richard davies <llewelyn.davies [at] eudoramail.com> writes:
>
>    Llewelyn> Hi, First thank you for all the help you have already
>    Llewelyn> given me on various problems and now for something new.
>
>    Llewelyn> I am just experimenting with networking and have the
>    Llewelyn> following set up
>
>    Llewelyn> computer one Mandrake 7.2 mysystem.downstairs
>
>    Llewelyn> computer two Mandrake 8.0 mysystem.upstairs
>
>    Llewelyn> They are both set with hosts.allow = ALL: hosts.deny =
>    Llewelyn> NONE
>
>Assuming you're just testing, /etc/hosts.allow should be
>
>ALL: ALL

Is currently
ALL: 127.0.0.1
ALL: 192.168.0
Which I assume is the loopback and everything on my private network.

>/etc/hosts.deny shouldn't make any difference, because hosts.allow is
>checked first, and you told the system to allow everyone, but it
>should be empty (comments are OK.)

It is empty.

>    Llewelyn> I can ping from either box from downstairs I can telent,
>    Llewelyn> ssh, ftp to upstairs with no problems. Going the other
>    Llewelyn> way I get connection refused by remote host what
>    Llewelyn> configuration files do I need to look in to sort this
>    Llewelyn> out. I have read the networking howto and am still
>    Llewelyn> confused.
>
>Connection refused _might_ not be anything to do with the access rights
>(hosts.allow/deny, packet filtering etc) - check if the servers are
>running on the machine that is causing the problems (the downstairs
>box).
>
>Are there any firewall rules on either boxen blocking connections?
>
>As root, try ipchains -L -n or iptables -L -n to check.

Nothing at all checked for existance of iptables / ipchains
[root@tollyboy richard]# locate ipchains
/home/richard/linux/include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipchains_core.h
/home/richard/linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipchains_core.c
/etc/aurora/default/icons/Applying ipchains firewall rules.xpm 
that is all I got.

>SSH gives "secure connection to some.computer refused" if the network
>is down or there is no SSH server listening on the far end (or a
>firewall is blocking access).
>
>ps -aux | grep sshd

Nothing

>should give something like:
>
>[baz@flux baz]$ ps -aux | grep sshd
>root       667  0.0  0.3  2676 1272 ?        S    Oct28   0:02 /usr/sbin/sshd
>baz        870  0.0  0.1  1732  600 pts/5    S    23:31   0:00 grep sshd
>
>/usr/sbin/sshd is the SSH server on my machine.
>
>FTP and telnet are normally run from inetd or xinetd, have a look at
>/etc/inetd.conf or /etc/xinetd.d/ - check that inetd or xinetd is
>running (try ps -aux | grep inetd)

Nothing

>Uncomment the lines for the services you want to run in
>/etc/inetd.conf, 

ftp	stream	tcp	nowait	root	/usr/sbin/tcpd	in.ftpd -l -a
telnet	stream  tcp 	nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd	in.telnetd
pop-3   stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd	ipop3d

These are the only services apparently running.

or look at the config files in /etc/xinetd.d 

This file doesn't appear to exist on my system

and
>check that the "disable =" bit is "disable = no" for services you want
>to run.
>(Re)start the service - there are scripts in /etc/init.d or
>/etc/rc.d/init.d/ (depends on your system) to do this:
>
>e.g.
>
>/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd start
>/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart
>/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd stop

These files do not appear to be here
/etc/rc.d/init.d/inet is the nearest to any of them

>Are you getting a prompt for a user's password, or does everything
>just come back connection refused?

Just comes back connection refused.

>    Llewelyn> Also when the local network is up I am unable to
>    Llewelyn> download my mail from the web I have to close it first
>    Llewelyn> and then dial into the web. I presume that my network
>    Llewelyn> configurating is preventing the system using resolv.conf
>    Llewelyn> to find the nameservers.  Why and what do I do about it?
>
>Not sure on this on - /etc/resolv.conf generally gets updated when
>you dialup, but IIRC the system shouldn't change it when an ethernet
>connection comes up - my boxen certainly don't.

/etc/resolv.conf looks just fine but unless I run /etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop before dialing into the net I can connect but can't go anywhere or get my mail. If I hang up bring the network down and then dial straight back in with no other changes the web works just fine.

>Usual check for nameserver problems:
>
>dial up
>have a look at /var/log/messages and 

Oct 30 18:33:30 tollyboy pppd[1825]: pppd 2.4.0 started by richard, uid 501
Oct 30 18:33:30 tollyboy pppd[1825]: Using interface ppp0
Oct 30 18:33:30 tollyboy pppd[1825]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Oct 30 18:33:30 tollyboy pppd[1825]: Remote message: tollyboy: IP Address: 158.152.140.35  Running PPP on 194NL roaming issues.finger status [at] gOct 30 18:33:30 tollyboy kernel: PPP BSD Compression module registered
Oct 30 18:33:30 tollyboy kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered
Oct 30 18:33:31 tollyboy pppd[1825]: local  IP address 158.152.140.35
Oct 30 18:33:31 tollyboy pppd[1825]: remote IP address 158.152.1.222
Oct 30 18:33:31 tollyboy pppd[1825]: primary   DNS address 158.152.1.43
Oct 30 18:33:31 tollyboy pppd[1825]: secondary DNS address 158.152.1.58
Oct 30 18:40:00 tollyboy CROND[1850]: (root) CMD (   /sbin/rmmod -as)     

There is about the last half hour of messages looks OK to me but I don't know a lot about it.

/etc/resolv.conf

domain localdomain 		#kppp temp entry
# # search localdomain 	#entry disabled by kppp
# search localdomain  	#entry disabled by kppp

# nameserver 158.152.1.58 # ppp temp entry
# nameserver 158.152.1.43 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58
nameserver 158.152.1.43


# ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.43 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.43 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.43 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.43 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.43 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.43 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.43	#kppp temp entry
nameserver 158.152.1.58	#kppp temp entry


>launch favourite web browser
>http://194.247.47.86/

Zetnet "Website not found"

>http://www.sheflug.co.uk/

Sheflug

>should be the same site. If http://194.247.47.86/ works, but
>http://www.sheflug.co.uk/ didn't, then something is wrong with DNS.

Something is screwed in the DNS

>If nothing worked, you've got more problems :-)
>
>Cheers.

Thanks Baz I don't know if it gets me any closer to a solution but hopefully it will work out.
>
>Baz.
>
>-- 
>Barrie J. Bremner  OpenPGP public key ID: 5164F553
>baz [at] barriebremner.com http://barriebremner.com/
>
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