Re: [Sheflug] KDE/Gnome [was: home accounts]

["Chris J" <xxxxx [at] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Regards for the Gnucash link ... I'll have a gander, though I'm not sure 
I'll go for it if its Gnome based.

> > [1] they just eat up vast amounts of disk space with no obvious benefit 
> > that I can see...but that only IMO.
> 
> The benefit is they make making (good) applications easier on the
> programmer, hence the number of applications using them.  

I was thinking of user-benefit, not programmer-benefit. The problem is 
there are two inherently different sets of libraries around, so for maximum 
benefit you need both sets of libs on eating up disk space. I don't like 
cluttering a system with unnecessary libraries - that's a big issue I had 
with SuSE - it's footprint for an install, for me, was getting on for twice
what I could get with a slackware install, with pretty much the same apps 
installed.

What I'd like to see is both camps come together and come up with a common 
API ... then I can have either one or the other on my machine and not have 
need for both. The implementation can then be fought out in each camp as 
they see fit.

This would make the programmers life even easier as they wouldn't have to 
choose which faction to join in with, and the users could benefit. I suspect
it isn't going to happen though, as its too late in the day and both
projects have different ideals etc etc...
 
> I've worked with GTK a little, and with Xt and Motif even less, and
> I'd have to say, having a toolkit/library that doesn't suck (and GTK
> more-or-less qualifies) helps a lot.  Sure, you *can* write an
> application using just Xlib calls.  You could also probably not use
> the C library.  But why????

You /could/ just use QT or GTK. I'm happy having both of those on. It's all 
the supporting libraries that KDE and Gnome they need on top. I've worked 
with QT and it is (was? I haven't played with QT 2 ... and last time I 
touched QT was about 4 or 5 years ago) quite nice to use.

Anyhow ... I'm not wanting to get into a discussion about this as I still
prefer not to use either given a choice...this is basically due to having
had a low-spec machine with little disk space[1] until a year or two back.
Attitudes, however, are hard to change :)

Chris...

[1] No I'm not buying more disk space ... I've 40GB and I'm running out. 
Currently doing a mass clean-up of the system to find out where its all 
gone; 20GB is reserved for mp3's though. And that's getting nicely full, 
though it's going to remain static until I allow myself to start buying 
CD's again...

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