Hi A live KDE 4 beta 4 CD has been created. To get hold of it go to... http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4livecd.html not sure if this works only with Debian but you might want to try and see what happens ? -- Richard _______________________________________________ Sheffield Linux User's Group http://www.sheflug.org.uk/mailfaq.html GNU - The choice of a complete generation