Re: [Sheflug] IE5

[Damion Yates <nospam [at] rd.bbc.co.uk>]

On Sat, 20 May 2000, Will Newton wrote:

> On Sat, 20 May 2000, Paul Sims wrote:
> 
> > Will MacOS X be M$ back-door into Unix ?
> 
> The difference between MacOS X, Solaris and Linux is that Linux is free.
> Therefore releasing IE5 for Linux doesn't pay M$. They have money in
> Apple, they can use IE5 as leverage with Sun. Linux is a competitor they
> can't control. I would assume M$ will actively make sure IE5 is never able
> to run on Linux, via iBCS or any other way.
> That applies to the BSDs also.

Perhaps you wern't on the mailing list in January:
Anyway, IE5 runs v.well on Linux thank you.  I perfure NS 4.7 including
shockwave4 and realnetworks plugin working nicely.  I've had little/no
crashes and prefer the functionality.  The postpage rendering is there due to
it being more correct about what the html will look like eventually and there
being non existing image size tags.  This affects several things saddly like
slashdot.org when connecting over a slow (64k) link.  If you've been using
the internet and remember first seeing Xmosaic, and also are a true MS hater
you would not be saying these things about IE vs NS.  Currently Linux's only
real browser IS the best okay?

Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:38:44 +0000 (GMT)
From: Damion Yates <damiony>
To: sheflug <sheflug [at] listbot.com>
Subject: Re: Terminal Emulators

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Ross wrote:

> 
> Al Hudson wrote:
> > 
> > I don't whether it does or not, but I always thought minicom did this?
> > Maybe I'm wrong, I've never used the software before ;) Of course, Xterm
> > is also a terminal emulator... just need to attach it to the serial
> > port..  hmm, prolly. more bother than worth ;)

> minicom does talk, but not in vt100 format (at least not as far as i can
> tell)

It should be vt102, which is close enough to vt100 to work most of the time.
It supports colour and is fast small and efficient, I've used it for several
years.

> all the text appears on one line.

This sounds like you need to go in to the config and turn on linewrap (^A
O..the rest should be obvious).  OR.. your screen size (mentioned in another
email) try:
stty rows 24 (local)
export TERM vt100 (at the remote end)
reset

Or make your xterm 25 lines large before starting minicom (it's normally used
in the console by people I think).

I need this myself when connecting to a sun from my home Linux box from the
console (have to login and fix faults asap, no time for X ;)

> seyon uses xterm as the emulator but it's not a fully functioning version
> (or maybe i just haven't set it correctly!) the graphics and text displays
> correctly but the function keys don't operate. the system i use needs the
> function keys for specific actions.

It's usually possible to remap functions keys, you could look at xmodmap and
do some websearches for this area, I took a short look at seyon and thought
erg :(
 
> got any idea's?

wine can run terminal.exe, (has done for about 4.5 years) but that is rubbish
:)  If you know of a terminal emulator that you like in Windows you can try
wine on it.  I found to my utter amazement that wine was able to startup IE5
and then when I went to news.bbc.co.uk even the java worked!!!

Damion

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email: Damion.Yates [at] bbc.co.uk - phone: +44 1737 839510


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