Re: [Sheflug] vi, emacs, sharp sticks

["Chris J/#6" <nospam [at] nccnet.co.uk>]

> 
>     Chris> Well...running external commands on a region is possible in
>     Chris> vi. The '%' is just a shortcut for "all lines". Just
>     Chris> replace with '10,.' or '0,4' or '100,$' as appropriate. :)
> 
> Surely vi has some kind of mark and a notion of "the current region"?
> 

How do you define "the current region"? vim (I've not checked pure vi) allows 
you to set marks in a file which act as bookmarks into a file or sets of 
files using ':m{a-zA-Z}'. But they're only set on a line - if you delete the 
line, the mark dissapears. Similarly if you set a mark up with, say, :ma and 
then issue ":'a,.!sort" the mark will dissapear (probably because doing the 
sort deletes the line with the mark on before re-inserting it).

> Emacs is optimized for the former.  It has "shell buffers", but
> they're clunkier than a real shell for shell-type work (precisely
> because Emacs usurps a lot of shell bindings).  vi is optimized for
> the latter; you can do a lot of those things inside of vi, but often
> it's easier to save a file and push to a shell (rather than count
> lines or whatever).
> 

True; depending on what I'm doing to a file, I'll sed/awk/grep/sort it and 
then some before going into vi to do something else, even though I could do 
it all within vi itself. But it's just how I work and may not be everyones 
cup of tea.

>     Chris> I'm not impressed because you're just showing off.
> 
> Nothin' wrong with that?
> 

Of course not ... just be careful to dodge the wet sponges I throw your 
direction O:-)

Anyhow ... referring yo your other email...where you said:

> Peace? :)

Umm...okay. For the good of the list, I'll order all recounts to stop, and 
call this a draw :-)

Chris...


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