Re: [Sheflug] Dedicated Server Setup

[Marcus Hanwell <linux [at] xxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 09:18, Alex Hudson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 08:48, Marcus Hanwell wrote:
> > > > > There are a number of projects about that will take over support for  free 
> > > > > versions of redhat come December - so all is not doom and gloom on that 
> > > > > front.
> > > > 
> > > > No it's not - but it can be difficult upgrading the distro remotely
> > > > without pulling the machine out of colo whilst you apply the
> > > > upgrade/install a new distro. 
> > > 
> > > Nobody has said anything about upgrading or installing a new distro.
> > > 
> > What else would you do other than upgrade/install a new distro once
> > support of the one you are using has been withdrawn? 
> 
> The option he first suggested - a project that will "take over support
> for free versions of Red Hat come December". That's what he suggested,
> and you said it would be difficult to upgrade the distro. Lance pointed
> out that he wasn't talking about upgrading/installing a new distro.
> 
> If your original point was that it's hard to apply updates (not
> upgrades) to a distro on a production server; I think that misses the
> point.

Just reread the posts, and didn't realise he meant there was literally a
project to take over support and updates for the 'existing' Red Hat free
products. It seemed to mean that Fedora will take over support, and so a
distro install/upgrade would be needed.
> 
> > > > This is why I would suggest changing
> > > > distros now - and of course you may wish to use something a little more
> > > > tried and tested so as to avoid suffering the teething problems of what
> > > > is essentially a new project on a production server.
> > > 
> > > or a new project ??
> > 
> > I'm sorry but I really don't understand what you are trying to say.
> 
> No-one was talking about a new project - you're arguing against using a
> new project on a "production" server, that's not what Lance was
> suggesting. He was suggesting making use of the people who are going to
> continue to issue updates to Red Hat, not that people change to Fedora. 
> 
He could have been considerably clearer, but if that is what he was
trying to say then it is a fair point. Again it remains to be seen how
these people cope with maintaining the old versions of Red Hat and what
you need to do in order to use their replacement upgrade service.
Whether the hosting will cope with demand, whether they can patch
everything properly without breaking other things in the process. Will
they have the resources to do adequate testing on updates???

I think you get my point, but I do admit to not being aware of an effort
to maintain updates for the current version of Red Hat too. In my
opinion it would still not be the wisest choice to stick with a dead
product which may or may not be of the same quality as it was originally
in terms of updates/support.

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