Re: [Sheflug] BSD Question

["Netsonic" <netsonic [at] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan" <jonathan [at] sirtis.org.uk>
To: <shef-lug [at] list.sheflug.org.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Sheflug] BSD Question


> Netsonic wrote:
> > After the initial install and configuration, I then started to look at
the
> > updating, using pkg_add, specifically for Kde.
> >
> > I changed the PACKAGESITE to point to rabarber and then did a
'pkg_add -rn
> > kde-3.2.0' to see what would happen.
> >
> > For everything it checked, there was an older version installed (usually
> > only by one or two revisions older), and a list of dependencies that had
to
> > be met.
> >
> > I then started to try and update them one at a time using pkg_add -f but
it
> > still bombed out each time. It *feels* like theres almost a circular
> > reference going on here in respect of the update requirements.
> >
> > Is there any quick and easy way to get it to update, including all
> > dependencies and version updates, using pkg_add ?
>
> The easiest way to make updates, I find, is to use the portupgrade
> package/port - which can be found in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade.
>
> Then, to upgrade kde_base, for instance, you could run:
>
> portupgrade kde_base
>
> There are various other options which may be of use:
>
> -f : force
> -r : recursive build of depencies
> -R : recursive build of dependants
> -a : update all (So portupgrade -af would upgrade everything)
>
> Any ports which you have a custom build for, you can enter the details
> in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf - this is fairly well documented in the
> sample that's provided. You can specify aliases (so any dependency for
> apache13 can we shown apache13_modssl) or if there are things you build
> from source (I do for qmail to use ASMTP) you can mark it to ignore if
> certain packages/ports are "missing".
>
> If you want to use packages, rather than ports, "portupgrade -P" would
> look for packages in preference to ports and "portupgrade -PP" would
> only upgrade those items for which a package was available.
>
> There are sometimes some strange dependencies - I recently found KDE was
> insisting on OpenLDAP 2.1 and would try and install and complain about
> OpenLDAP 2.2 that I was already running.
>
> I think I may have also seen the problem you mention - I was getting
> warnings suggesting that kde_base and kde_libs conflicted - which is a
> little daft, as kde_base is supposed to be a metaport to install the
> other bits and bobs. I was in a rush, so just uninstalled KDE and
> started from scratch. (A shame there wasn't a package for 3.2.0 or it
> would have been a lot quicker!)
>
> Finally, to check the consistency of your ports and packages, run:
>
> "pkgdb -F" - this will show you any redundant dependencies and clashing
> versions - I originally had 3 versions of gettext installed!
>
> "pkg_version -L =" will compare installed versions against your ports
> tree and tell you what can be upgraded.
>
> HTH,
>
> Jonathan
>

Thanks Jonathan,

I'll give this a go when I get chance.

It makes we wonder about the benefits of installing the absolute minimal
system and then going from there.

No hassles with upgrading/updating, for a while at least.

I did actually try a minimal install the other day, with the intention of
compiling xfree from source, but the compile failed miserably with too many
errors.

Steve.

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