Re: [sheflug] Ubuntu/Debian (was Re: Apache,shtml and php config. problem)

[Dean Sas <dean [at] xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Lesley Binks wrote:
> Adam Funk wrote:
>> On Monday 14 August 2006 23:11, Ruth Gunstone wrote:
>>
>>>> I have heard Ubuntu is pretty good over a range of hardware and some
>>>> people say it is the distro most likely to install on new hardware
>>>> but that may be because Ubuntu takes Debian and makes it *really*
>>>> unstable ;)
>>> Ouch! ;-)
>> I thought Ubuntu took "Debian testing/unstable" and made it usable!
> lol!
> Perhaps, but methinks beauty is in the eye of the beholder on this one. 
>   Debian doesn't have the prettiest installation I've seen but then 
> neither really does Ubuntu.
>> I used Debian faithfully for years, but my last `aptitude dist-upgrade` 
>> ended with this:
>>
>> 281 packages upgraded, 177 newly installed, 464 to remove and 122 not 
>> upgraded.
>> Need to get 302MB of archives. After unpacking 1033MB will be freed.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] 
>>
>> and I got tired of spending 30 to 60 minutes guessing at packages that 
>> could be upgraded without removing any that I still needed.
>>
> Happily cracking along with Debian unstable on my laptop and I have 
> written a basic shell script to do the updating for me.  I really should 
> turn that into a cron job at some point.  I use apt-get update and then 
> force apt-get upgrade with a -y.  This provides a blanket upgrade to all 
> installed packages - which obviously has it's risks.
> 
> I've only ever used the dist-upgrade option to go from stable to unstable.
> 
> You can use /etc/apt/preferences file to pin any package you need to 
> keep at a specific version.  I have no clue whether you can still do 
> that under Ubuntu's auto-update routine.
> 

update-manager uses apt under the hood, so it still respects package
pinning for updates. Using the -d switch to upgrade distribution from
say 5.10 to 6.06 presumably respects this, but I'm not positive.

dsas

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