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Re: [Sheflug] https




On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

>     >> finally, you can do `while 1; do ping -c 1
>     >> www.interflora.co.uk; sleep 15; done'.  Hm?
>  Al> Doesn't that mean the link will never go down, even when he's
>  Al> finished using it? You'd have to ^C it, I suppose?
> Yup.  If he knows how long he will use the link, for i in `seq 1 $MIN/4`
> should be substituted for the while 1.

I think excessive use of the command line is highly correlated with the
'bodgit' mentality... ;)

> I was just assuming that keeping the wife happy was worth the risk of
> running up a big phone bill.  :-)  Certainly is in my case.

Do you tell mother in law jokes too ? ;) 

>     Al> AFAIK, he's operating diald from commandline / rc.d, I don't
>     Al> really see what point you're making?
> (1) If he doesn't know how to do this, evidently he set it up from a
>     GUI lacking the necessary buttons, no?

I don't know; I'm not a mind reader unfortuantely  ;)

> What they are _not_ is educational.  Most GUIs are very incomplete,
> and excessive GUI use is highly correlated with inability to deal with
> a crisis.

I don't agree with that for a second ;) GUIs are able to show fundamental
n-dimensional relationships between data / functions much better than the
command line ever will. To be able to see dynamic results to a
configuration change requires the use of a GUI. To be able to group
configuration options logically requires more than a command line. GUIs
are so useful for so many other reasons it's untrue. Viewing trees.
Viewing graphs. 3D graphics. I think you've obviously been tainted by the
(vast) number of crappy interfaces out there... ;))

Cheers,

Alex.



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