Re: [Sheflug] Another stupid Debian Q.

[Richard Lowe <nospam [at] Btinternet.com>]

* Barrie Bremner (baz [at] barriebremner.com) wrote:
> >>>>> "Barrie" == Barrie Bremner <baz [at] barriebremner.com> writes:
> 
>     Barrie> Just having got my RH7.1 all installed and pretty much
>     Barrie> everything working, I'm still itching to rip it all apart
>     Barrie> and go Debian, however I'm a little confused as to how I
>     Barrie> can be selective with an apt-get dist upgrade (or whatever
>     Barrie> the command is).
> 
> Well now,
> 
> I installed Debian 2.2r0, did the apt-get dist-upgrade to 2.2r3, and
> then looked at getting Woody.
> 
> 150+ Mb download - and that was with a pretty small system installed
> on the PC.
> 
> Add to that the fact that it looks like Debian would take a reasonable
> bit of reconfig to look/feel the way I would want I figured I'd leave
> it for the moment.
> 
> Debian is definitely a minimalist's distro by default.
> 
> I didn't seem to have a graphical web browser installed - and
> considering that I like reading sites like photo.net, it seemed a
> little annoying :-)
>

I think amaya, and maybe a very early mozilla are on the 2.2r0 cds.

> I think the main point was that I like Gnome, and I haven't got the
> slightest clue how to go about setting the system to do what a RH
> system does as default - init 5 gives gdm and X, followed by Gnome,
> complete with panels and shiney things :-)

apt-get install task-gnome-desktop task-gnome-apps task-gnome-games \
task-gnome net

I'm not sure if that will install gdm or not.
but apt-get install gdm if not. (dont know if that will enable it by
default or not, I just use xdm myself).

> Ximian are lying - their apt-get install method for Gnome seems to be
> broken - something I have no idea how to get around (yet) - hints please!
> 

Either dont use Ximian GNOME, or wait for Ximian to fix it :)

> I was mightily impressed that the post-install errata fetch is one
> command - no thought required - didn't have to think which packages to
> get.
> 

Theres no denying that theres more things you need to do to a debian
install just after its installed, to get it set up how you like.
But after that, maintaining the system is easy :)

> So, for now my workstations are staying RH - although the various
> other machines I have kicking around (fileserver/webcache and victim machines)
> will more than likely go Debian at the next upgrade (about 5 minutes
> time :-)
> 
> Just thought I'd share my thoughts.
> 
> I've given the install and setup a go, but I'd like to hear how I go
> about installing Ximian, how I fetch new packages (i.e. if I wanted
> mpg123, or squid, or nfs stuff etc).
> 

apt-get install <packagename>

if you're not sure what a package is called, use "apt-cache search <whatever>"


Remeber to apt-get update before you apt-get upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade
and if you get 404's when installing individual packages with apt.

> One last thing - has anyone tried the Woody snapshot CDs that seem to
> be kicking around, or are you all downloading everything?
> 

Running sid and downloading everything.


I've heard about more problems in woody, than I have in sid.
Not sure if its just that more people use woody though.
(and it has to be said, that the things that do go wrong with sid, tend
to be fairly important, glibc, dpkg et al.) :)

So I'm using sid, and upgrading every so often, when it seems like
theres nothing I use that isnt working :)

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[ Richard Lowe - richlowe - richlowe [at] btinternet.com ]
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