Re: [Sheflug] Re: Hypercard

[Alex Hudson <nospam [at] alexhudson.com>]

On 06 Feb 2001 20:55:16 +0000, Matt Fairtlough wrote:
> > Most "Publishing Systems" for Linux/U*IX seem to be database backed for
> > better or worse.
> 
> Fair enough.   Need to think again about the ISP for my pages then.   But of
> course I don't have Oracle or any other serious db engine on my machine at
> home
 

UKLinux do a MySQL backend, Postgres coming I think. If you want a
publishing system, you can go the Allaire/Macromedia route (ColdFusion,
works nice on Linux,  proprietry unfortunately), or something like Zope
from Zend. There are quite a few. Mason may tickle your fancy also.
These are all 'engines' though - nobody uses linux for serious web page
design, really, just back end stuff. 

> > Making sure your HTML is compliant to HTML4 (there are lots of HTML
> > validators available, see www.w3c.org).
> Right-oh.

I would also personally advise X/HTML, although I'll probably get a
little chastised for being too right-on!! It's essentially HTML4,
without some of the bugs, and reformulated so you can parse it with XML.
You probably don't need that right now, but it gets you into good habits
for the future. It's also worth noting some of the 'features' which we
are now parting company with - frames, for example :))


> > Have you seen Jython? (or JPython, as was) It's a Java Python interface,
> > and makes Python truly "the language Java should have been". i.e. not
> > another K&R style mess.
> 
> I'll have a look then.  But I think Perl is more my thing.  I'm at novice
> level I think.

"Python's too hard, I'll stick with Perl thanks" :) First time I've
heard *that* argument :)) Heh, as long as it's not php, I don't care.

> Oh, I use CVS.  Horrible syntax.  Oh, so some servers run CVS and I
should
> be able to use a "cvs export" command directly?  I'll have to look
into it
> more.

The usual method is to put 'cvs' into /etc/inetd.conf. It's a simple
one-liner - no fuss. You can even have it do secure transactions via
OpenSSH if you like. There are also a couple of CVS front-ends (mostly
for GNOME/Gtk++, IIRC) which seem close to their WinCVS counterparts.


> > Xanadu (or some version of it) is available from somewhere. :)
> > www.xanadu.org is offline, ah, www.gzigzag.org is where it's at. I think
> > Xanadu disappeared and is now zig zag, or something. :)


Is udanax.com still around? I thought Xanadu got given the perl -e
'print reverse;' treatment?

I don't think it's a serious system, anyhow.

Cheers,


Alex.
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