Re: [Sheflug] Hi All

[Mike Cardwell <mike [at] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 10:34 +0100, Alex Hudson wrote:

>> Ok. I have to step in again here. Installing mod_perl and setting it
>> up takes a few minutes to do, and is easy.
> Not compared to PHP, it's not.

Agreed. That doesn't change my point that mod_perl is easy to set up.

>> I don't know how anyone could describe the process as a "pain".
> From having dealt with mod_perl in a commercial setting and from
> personal experience on his own site?

I've also dealt with it in both of those situations. 

>> It's not difficult to support in an "ISP environment"
> Yes, it is. I don't know why you're bothering with this argument; it's
> acknowledged by the mod_perl developers to be a pain. From
> http://perl.apache.org/docs/general/multiuser/multiuser.html, they
> outline three choices: the first is unworkable due to security, the
> second due to RAM requirement, the third due to cost.

The reason I am bothering with this argument is because you are giving
the impression that it is a pain to support, but it doesn't have to be.
I wouldn't stick a commercial site on the same server as other
commercial sites anyway and most of the problems above just disappear
when it's your own private server.

>> Most sys-admins that have had experience with perl/apache setups
>> haven't had experience with mod_perl/apache setups so it gets 
>> ignored.
> I don't think it's sheer ignorance. I think people know the reputation
> of mod_perl for complexity, memory usage and general maintenance and
> just plain avoid it.

I disagree. I think it is sheer ignorance.

Complexity: It is more complex to admin than php, but not very complex
at all.
Memory usage: Only a problem when you write bad code.
Maintenance: What? It is no more difficult to maintain than an Apache
server without mod_perl.

Mike
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